justice’s posterous

Was hoping you'd do this one. See Also: http://www.randijames.com/2009/10/eminent-danger-proctive-measures-denied.html

You know, this would be different if you all knew the situation. First of all, there was a hearing on October 6th where Dawn (the baby's mother) stated UNDER OATH that Gabriel had never threatened or harmed her, and that she got an order of protection to control when he was allowed to see his son. The reason I know this information, is Gabriel was a close, personal friend of mine. This is NOT as simple as it seems. Yes, his actions were completely awful, but the situation is NOT as simple as some poor, abused mother being murdered by her crazy ex-boyfriend. That is NOT the case. She was vile to him, and she made his life awful in more ways than you can imagine. Tell me why she got an order of protection and less than a week later, invited him to a movie and dinner which SHE paid for. If you all want the proof, I can surely scan it and post it on here for you. She was not some helpless mother at the mercy of the court system. Stop making her the victim and him the monster. Yes, again, his actions were incorrigible to say the least, but get the full story before you start making comments about a situation you have only seen from the silver view of the media's version.

How about YOU tell us why "she got an order of protection and less than a week later, invited him to a movie and dinner which SHE paid for." After all, you're the "close personal friend". Did she have to make herself appear "friendly" because of the demented child custody laws? Or was it just an up and down relationship, and he was an asshole no matter how hard she tried to be nice?

"Stop making him the monster"? He murdered this woman -- and her mother! You call his actions "completely awful" but use worse descriptives for her -- that she also was "awful" and also "vile" -- especially because she invited him to dinner? What do you really think he was entitled to?

No. We don't need to assess her credibility or anything else, unless you are positing the demented position that perhaps she (and her mother) deserved to be murdered, were in some way responsible for this atrocity.

He wasn't married to this woman, and apparently wasn't supporting her, so she indeed should have been permitted to take her child and leave AND control how and when he saw the baby.

"this would be different if you all knew the situation"

You mean, Dawn Axsom would be alive instead, if we knew the situation? Or, we would change our minds about believing how horrible it was for her to have been murdered? Or what?

"stated UNDER OATH that Gabriel had never threatened or harmed her"

So, can we assume that everything Gabriel Schwartz said UNDER OATH was also true?

"Gabriel was a close, personal friend of mine."

Do you do all of your "close, personal" friends like this?

"NOT as simple as some poor, abused mother being murdered by her crazy ex-boyfriend"

Again, if the circumstances were different, would this mean she (and her mother) deserved to be murdered (in the house with her son)?

"Tell me why she got an order of protection and less than a week later, invited him to a movie and dinner which SHE paid for"

Tell me why the judge wanted her and the man who had former failed attempted suicides, and threats against her, to go to JOINT counseling. Maybe dinner and a movie was a great precursor.

"She was not some helpless mother at the mercy of the court system."

This is the most truth you've told. She wasn't helpless, she requested a restraining order and tried to abide by the law by requesting permission to relocate for safety. It didn't work. The only helpless person, is the little boy in CPS custody.

To "setyouonfire"

One of Dawn's friends stopped by my blog and commented on how she was kind and loving mother and how all her friends and family are hurting now. And of course, what will the son live with for the rest of his life? The friend confirmed the father was crazy and abusive. Now, I know friends will come out and defend their friend's actions when they do something terrible like this, but the fact is that it is terrible and the courts need to take domestic violence seriously.

http://justice4mothers.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/arizona-judge-ignores-pleas-of-abused-mother-orders-parental-counseling-and-two-weeks-later-is-murdered/

very sick and sad when people comment about a woman who is now gone because of the ULTIMATE act of violence.

The judges and the court system that allowed an abuser to have visitation after an order of protection is granted need to be held accountable if their decisions end in further abuse or, as in this case, murder. I'm so tired of reading about women, children, mothers being murdered by an angry, cowardly abuser all in the name of parental rights. If there is enough proof of abuse or fear for the life of the mother and child, then any visitation should stop, in my opinion. Why take a chance?